pointed out with sanctions in places like panama and serbia and afghanistan and iraq, indeed, did not succeed. so does senator hagel have a point there? >> well, there's no question that multilateral sanctions are far more effective when we began the process with iran. one of the amendments that i actually put into that process was to ensure that the sanctions we put in place were much -- multilateral, and what we didn't do was really hurt those people who are friends, the very companies and countries that are our allies, so there's no question that when we put sanctions in place, we need to do everything we can to make sure that they are multilateral. one of the reasons that i want to spend time with chuck hagel is i think as richard haass pointed out, there's been a lot of one-liners, if you will, that have been looked at, and i want to dig in and find out whether that really is chuck hagel's view of the world or whether we're taking these things out of context, but certainly i have concerns as we move forward. they're not disqualifying concerns, and, again, i think the meetings tha